Comments on: Criminalizing consensual sexual acts between adults of the same sex http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/ Sat, 17 May 2008 05:05:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: sumay sarangi http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-49017 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-49017 soundz great-sexual orientation.the data on nations liberal to the lhbt community paints quite a stark and revealing story however.island of gomos and mythological for presumptions lebos,the influence of the church was not without the conflict with the monarchy.however archaic we might state our laws,liberalizing practices u/s.377 is to be read not in isolation but with marriage laws,adoption laws,inheritance and most importantly personal laws.a mr. n mrs. duo if allowed to reign between two consenting adults of the same sex,abolishing s.377 would certainly make sense then in the literal and liberal context.empirical studies revealing societys dark underbelly reiterate such views and not closed door decisions taken in the comfort of ones room. soundz great-sexual orientation.the data on nations liberal to the lhbt community paints quite a stark and revealing story however.island of gomos and mythological for presumptions lebos,the influence of the church was not without the conflict with the monarchy.however archaic we might state our laws,liberalizing practices u/s.377 is to be read not in isolation but with marriage laws,adoption laws,inheritance and most importantly personal laws.a mr. n mrs. duo if allowed to reign between two consenting adults of the same sex,abolishing s.377 would certainly make sense then in the literal and liberal context.empirical studies revealing societys dark underbelly reiterate such views and not closed door decisions taken in the comfort of ones room.

]]> by: sanjukta http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-44626 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:55:59 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-44626 @Yazad Ever since i stumbled upon your blog while looking for posts on sex and gender..have been thinking about the name..found it familiar..lemme confirm...aint you a friend of Chandrashekhar..you run an NGO..we have spoken on phone.. strange world man... I have been a part of the Voices against 377 coalition for some time (till the time I moved to Bangalore) so quite glad to see this post... @ Lokapala May be its a bit late to respond... "law is enforced given existing privacy protections." On what basis do you say that, its a criminal law, you have 3rd party complaint, which means a 3rd party has the right to complaint against what a homo couple is doing behind their closed doors and if one can prove they had anal intercourse, they are guilty. Before the proving part comes the arrest/harassment by police bit.. Imagine, you made love and got arrested.. Isn't that ridiculous? What business has the state got telling how to make love with who so long it is consensual? @Yazad

Ever since i stumbled upon your blog while looking for posts on sex and gender..have been thinking about the name..found it familiar..lemme confirm…aint you a friend of Chandrashekhar..you run an NGO..we have spoken on phone.. strange world man…

I have been a part of the Voices against 377 coalition for some time (till the time I moved to Bangalore) so quite glad to see this post…

@ Lokapala

May be its a bit late to respond…

“law is enforced given existing privacy protections.”

On what basis do you say that, its a criminal law, you have 3rd party complaint, which means a 3rd party has the right to complaint against what a homo couple is doing behind their closed doors and if one can prove they had anal intercourse, they are guilty. Before the proving part comes the arrest/harassment by police bit..

Imagine, you made love and got arrested.. Isn’t that ridiculous? What business has the state got telling how to make love with who so long it is consensual?

]]> by: nandhu http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-31297 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:36:21 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-31297 great initiative. is it too late to join? great initiative. is it too late to join?

]]> by: Lokapala http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-21820 Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:42:25 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-21820 Without getting into the pros or cons of striking down the law, its worth noting that the reference to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is out of context, and rather misleading in general. In fact, the UDHR states that "The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State," and much of the debate on homosexuality in the western world has focused on the effect on the family, which is not addressed in the open letter. Clearly, the UDHR by itself is extremely ambivalent on this issue. "Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind." In my reading, Section 377 does not violate the above statement or the freedoms "set forth" in any way, but I'd be interested to hear what specific clauses people believe are being violated, particularly at the level that the law is enforced given existing privacy protections. I'd also be interested to know whether you think privacy protections make the law simply an articulation of a public morality rather than an enforcable restriction, and if so, whether there are any issues with it besides the purely semantic/ideological rather than instrumental ("what message is the government sending?"). Without getting into the pros or cons of striking down the law, its worth noting that the reference to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is out of context, and rather misleading in general. In fact, the UDHR states that “The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State,” and much of the debate on homosexuality in the western world has focused on the effect on the family, which is not addressed in the open letter. Clearly, the UDHR by itself is extremely ambivalent on this issue. “Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind.” In my reading, Section 377 does not violate the above statement or the freedoms “set forth” in any way, but I’d be interested to hear what specific clauses people believe are being violated, particularly at the level that the law is enforced given existing privacy protections. I’d also be interested to know whether you think privacy protections make the law simply an articulation of a public morality rather than an enforcable restriction, and if so, whether there are any issues with it besides the purely semantic/ideological rather than instrumental (”what message is the government sending?”).

]]> by: raghu http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-14380 Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:51:01 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-14380 hi, thanks for working help to mumbai people. hi, thanks for working help to mumbai people.

]]> by: Barrycuda http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-13984 Fri, 29 Dec 2006 03:18:23 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-13984 You're all a bunch of pretentious ponces, aren't you? can you tell your precise LEGAL grounds of challenge? please find me the Constitutional provisions that conflict with the IPC. please, something more than sanctimonious nonsense and thin gruel that attempt to pass for argument. You’re all a bunch of pretentious ponces, aren’t you?

can you tell your precise LEGAL grounds of challenge?

please find me the Constitutional provisions that conflict with the IPC.

please, something more than sanctimonious nonsense and thin gruel that attempt to pass for argument.

]]> by: orthosolve http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-11851 Sun, 05 Nov 2006 15:10:52 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-11851 the law is shocking. It must go ! the law is shocking. It must go !

]]> by: Aslam Nayyer http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-10660 Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:16:32 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-10660 Great Guns Yazad Jal, Good work going. At least the time has come when we have learnt to say a 'no' for a no and raise our voice in symphony for our basic human rights. The list above will go on increasing day by day and a time will come when our lazy government will rise up to repeal the archaic law formed by the britishers (amen). KEEP IT GOING. GOOD LUCK ASLAM Great Guns Yazad Jal,

Good work going. At least the time has come when we have learnt to say a ‘no’ for a no and raise our voice in symphony for our basic human rights. The list above will go on increasing day by day and a time will come when our lazy government will rise up to repeal the archaic law formed by the britishers (amen).
KEEP IT GOING.

GOOD LUCK

ASLAM

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]]> by: Apoplexy http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-9946 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:01:12 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/07/07/criminalizing-consensual-sexual-acts-between-adults-of-the-same-sex/#comment-9946 India has matured??? Least one needs are patronizers and snobs...who have reached maturity 10 yrs earlier than everyone.We call them"echore paka" Anyways, its a wonderful initiative. 377 must be struck down. Its an archaeic British period law. India has matured??? Least one needs are patronizers and snobs…who have reached maturity 10 yrs earlier than everyone.We call them”echore paka”
Anyways, its a wonderful initiative. 377 must be struck down. Its an archaeic British period law.

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