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		<title>by: Istopfornothing</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/04/07/after-jessica-the-market-for-justice/#comment-25357</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 12:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I commute between the west and India for business: a few observations, back home in India we live in a feudal society with a sycophantic corrupt law and legal system. The ordinary citizen has little to no recourse for the law. And hell yes! the blasted IPS/IAS are as corrupt and feckless as your worst fears. My business takes me to a variety of places in India and I have 2 armed guards with me at all times, in addition I am quite adept at martial arts. (and yes I have had to use all my skills to stay alive!) 
In the west, the citizen has access to a police system that works, and a legal system that actually strives for justice. I believe that the reason, that things are the way they are, in India, is an Indian world view that at its core stands for NOTHING! There is no bravery, chivalry, truth honesty or justice in our form of government and in the minds of our people. Travel the world people, and trust me you will realize a lot about the vaunted Indian mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I commute between the west and India for business: a few observations, back home in India we live in a feudal society with a sycophantic corrupt law and legal system. The ordinary citizen has little to no recourse for the law. And hell yes! the blasted IPS/IAS are as corrupt and feckless as your worst fears. My business takes me to a variety of places in India and I have 2 armed guards with me at all times, in addition I am quite adept at martial arts. (and yes I have had to use all my skills to stay alive!)<br />
In the west, the citizen has access to a police system that works, and a legal system that actually strives for justice. I believe that the reason, that things are the way they are, in India, is an Indian world view that at its core stands for NOTHING! There is no bravery, chivalry, truth honesty or justice in our form of government and in the minds of our people. Travel the world people, and trust me you will realize a lot about the vaunted Indian mind!
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		<title>by: It&#8217;s the Market, stupid! : &#8230;no third solution</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/04/07/after-jessica-the-market-for-justice/#comment-21191</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 03:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Fortunately, there are men among us who see the forest for the trees, and endeavor to demonstrate how protection might occur, with more than a simple platitude. Like Yazad Jal, who contributes to the Times of India, and recently wrote a very lucid and enlightening piece about a real world problem and how it might&amp;#8217;ve been dealt with (or prevented) under a truly free-market system of law, justice, and protection. He doesn&amp;#8217;t update his blog often enough, but I enjoy it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Fortunately, there are men among us who see the forest for the trees, and endeavor to demonstrate how protection might occur, with more than a simple platitude. Like Yazad Jal, who contributes to the Times of India, and recently wrote a very lucid and enlightening piece about a real world problem and how it might&#8217;ve been dealt with (or prevented) under a truly free-market system of law, justice, and protection. He doesn&#8217;t update his blog often enough, but I enjoy it. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: My Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It&#8217;s the Market, stupid!</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/04/07/after-jessica-the-market-for-justice/#comment-20328</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Fortunately, there are men among us who see the forest for the trees, and endeavor to demonstrate how protection might occur, with more than a simple platitude. Like Yazad Jal, who contributes to the Times of India, and recently wrote a very lucid and enlightening piece about a real world problem and how it might&amp;#8217;ve been dealt with (or prevented) under a truly free-market system of law, justice, and protection. He doesn&amp;#8217;t update his blog often enough, but I enjoy it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Fortunately, there are men among us who see the forest for the trees, and endeavor to demonstrate how protection might occur, with more than a simple platitude. Like Yazad Jal, who contributes to the Times of India, and recently wrote a very lucid and enlightening piece about a real world problem and how it might&#8217;ve been dealt with (or prevented) under a truly free-market system of law, justice, and protection. He doesn&#8217;t update his blog often enough, but I enjoy it. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: swami</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/04/07/after-jessica-the-market-for-justice/#comment-10466</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sauvik, 
Wow!  I cant believe you actually found a mainstream paper to get &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; published... But then, I should know Times Of India is after all very unique...  

Your response to Mahesh's comment illustrates your attitude... 

&quot;Enjoy the IDEA&quot;!?  That should count as the zenith of intellectual BSing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sauvik,<br />
Wow!  I cant believe you actually found a mainstream paper to get <i>this</i> published&#8230; But then, I should know Times Of India is after all very unique&#8230;  </p>
<p>Your response to Mahesh&#8217;s comment illustrates your attitude&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;Enjoy the IDEA&#8221;!?  That should count as the zenith of intellectual BSing.
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		<title>by: apurv</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/04/07/after-jessica-the-market-for-justice/#comment-10363</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am apurv rai i had taken a chocolate which turned out to be covered with fungus like pojections off its surface when i complained to the officials they did not take prompt action and the company confiscated all the chocolates of that batch and tried to put the case under cover by corporate politics lets see what the citizens of india do to support a 17 year old to fight against the mnc producing the chocolates visit www.apurvrdx.blogspot .com and see the pictures yourself . after opening the page click on creativity in writing  to view the photos , the blog's name is homeless.
May the force be with us !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am apurv rai i had taken a chocolate which turned out to be covered with fungus like pojections off its surface when i complained to the officials they did not take prompt action and the company confiscated all the chocolates of that batch and tried to put the case under cover by corporate politics lets see what the citizens of india do to support a 17 year old to fight against the mnc producing the chocolates visit <a href='http://www.apurvrdx.blogspot' rel='nofollow'>www.apurvrdx.blogspot</a> .com and see the pictures yourself . after opening the page click on creativity in writing  to view the photos , the blog&#8217;s name is homeless.<br />
May the force be with us !!
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		<title>by: Prem</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/04/07/after-jessica-the-market-for-justice/#comment-9473</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>THE ONLY WAY TO GET JUSTICE FOR JESSICA LAL AND OTHERS LIKE HER IS IF WE THE PUBLIC GIVE MONEY TO....BHILOGS...I MEAN MUMBAI MAFIA AND tell them to take care of those responsible for the murders...also to take care of those witnesses that turned hostile....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE ONLY WAY TO GET JUSTICE FOR JESSICA LAL AND OTHERS LIKE HER IS IF WE THE PUBLIC GIVE MONEY TO&#8230;.BHILOGS&#8230;I MEAN MUMBAI MAFIA AND tell them to take care of those responsible for the murders&#8230;also to take care of those witnesses that turned hostile&#8230;.
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		<title>by: Nishant</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/04/07/after-jessica-the-market-for-justice/#comment-9126</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sorry to be rude, but...

Do you have any idea how half witted your political understanding is? Arising as it does, from the best intentions of an upper middle class, urban indian, supposed intelligentsia position, that has been left unexamined by you.

There was an article in the current Time Out on you people, so I barged in, only to realise that I've crashed some upper class tea party.

Mr Jal, your sensibilities reek of someone who has little or no exposure to the notion of humanity except as an exploiter or in exploitative circumstances. and coupled with your miserable middle class good will, you see these  shitty eurocentric realities as the givens of 'life' today.

Before you continue to pronounce on the world in an uneducated way and 'theorize' on this bizarre model that you have in your head, (which is not a model, my friend  it's just an outcome of the shittiest economic system known to man..), read some more.

Yes,  in a country of corrupt Indians, how dare the government involve itself in rural employment? or worse still education?????

Let some more farmers commit suicide, after all let's remember Natural Selection.

Expand your reading to a little more than Friedman and Ayn Rand, and what you find in the economic section of Crossword.

Or if thats too much work, atleast to your self, acknowledge your own lack of empathy and respect for human life.

I'll be keeping watch on your website, and posting more insults when necessary. (If you have the decency and basic democratic ethos to put this on in the first place)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be rude, but&#8230;</p>
<p>Do you have any idea how half witted your political understanding is? Arising as it does, from the best intentions of an upper middle class, urban indian, supposed intelligentsia position, that has been left unexamined by you.</p>
<p>There was an article in the current Time Out on you people, so I barged in, only to realise that I&#8217;ve crashed some upper class tea party.</p>
<p>Mr Jal, your sensibilities reek of someone who has little or no exposure to the notion of humanity except as an exploiter or in exploitative circumstances. and coupled with your miserable middle class good will, you see these  shitty eurocentric realities as the givens of &#8216;life&#8217; today.</p>
<p>Before you continue to pronounce on the world in an uneducated way and &#8216;theorize&#8217; on this bizarre model that you have in your head, (which is not a model, my friend  it&#8217;s just an outcome of the shittiest economic system known to man..), read some more.</p>
<p>Yes,  in a country of corrupt Indians, how dare the government involve itself in rural employment? or worse still education?????</p>
<p>Let some more farmers commit suicide, after all let&#8217;s remember Natural Selection.</p>
<p>Expand your reading to a little more than Friedman and Ayn Rand, and what you find in the economic section of Crossword.</p>
<p>Or if thats too much work, atleast to your self, acknowledge your own lack of empathy and respect for human life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be keeping watch on your website, and posting more insults when necessary. (If you have the decency and basic democratic ethos to put this on in the first place)
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		<title>by: mt</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/04/07/after-jessica-the-market-for-justice/#comment-8191</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 15:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I agree with Ergo's views.

The first part was very interesting though I do hope you were not serious in the second part! As to the role of the state-provision of education and employment should be provided for by the state, to a certain extent, though not like Villepin! Though to discuss that here is to go off-topic. 

The police has failed miserably-the level of corruption which has seeped into it at every level is well known to all. There are a multitude of reasons for this, including lack of dedication and motivation. 

Even the tiniest success by them shows us that there might still be hope, however vague, because to only look at the bad side is to fall to the lowest levels of despondency. Secondly, there are some good officers out there though their number is shockingly low. Jessica Lal's case shows not only mishandling by the police force but also how power and influence can go a long way to shelter the lowest of criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ergo&#8217;s views.</p>
<p>The first part was very interesting though I do hope you were not serious in the second part! As to the role of the state-provision of education and employment should be provided for by the state, to a certain extent, though not like Villepin! Though to discuss that here is to go off-topic. </p>
<p>The police has failed miserably-the level of corruption which has seeped into it at every level is well known to all. There are a multitude of reasons for this, including lack of dedication and motivation. </p>
<p>Even the tiniest success by them shows us that there might still be hope, however vague, because to only look at the bad side is to fall to the lowest levels of despondency. Secondly, there are some good officers out there though their number is shockingly low. Jessica Lal&#8217;s case shows not only mishandling by the police force but also how power and influence can go a long way to shelter the lowest of criminals.
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		<title>by: sauvik</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/04/07/after-jessica-the-market-for-justice/#comment-8185</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 01:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>RE: ERGO:

ayn rand's misplaced views on 'competing governments' have been thoroughly ridiculed by linda and morris tannehill in their classic, &quot;The Market for Liberty&quot;. 

there is no reason why a State is required either to &quot;enforce&quot; property rights or to &quot;enforce&quot; contracts or to &quot;adjudicate&quot; torts. all these - property, contracts and torts - have their base in custom and tradition, and these customs and traditions pre-date the birth of the modern State.

That is, property came before the law or the state, as did the 'market'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: ERGO:</p>
<p>ayn rand&#8217;s misplaced views on &#8216;competing governments&#8217; have been thoroughly ridiculed by linda and morris tannehill in their classic, &#8220;The Market for Liberty&#8221;. </p>
<p>there is no reason why a State is required either to &#8220;enforce&#8221; property rights or to &#8220;enforce&#8221; contracts or to &#8220;adjudicate&#8221; torts. all these - property, contracts and torts - have their base in custom and tradition, and these customs and traditions pre-date the birth of the modern State.</p>
<p>That is, property came before the law or the state, as did the &#8216;market&#8217;.
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		<title>by: Ergo</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/04/07/after-jessica-the-market-for-justice/#comment-8180</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 20:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I understand your libertarian tendencies, but you are overlooking a huge caveat in your proposed anarchist system - what happens when you have competing aggressors and competing insurance agencies!? Who is the final arbiter? And why wouldn't the &quot;final&quot; arbiter too not be a figment of an anarchist free-market, competing amongst themselves!?

Study Ayn Rand's theory of competing governments carefully before you decide to advocate such careless libertarian theories. And while doing that, keep in mind that property and human rights are not subject to free-market forces or competing agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your libertarian tendencies, but you are overlooking a huge caveat in your proposed anarchist system - what happens when you have competing aggressors and competing insurance agencies!? Who is the final arbiter? And why wouldn&#8217;t the &#8220;final&#8221; arbiter too not be a figment of an anarchist free-market, competing amongst themselves!?</p>
<p>Study Ayn Rand&#8217;s theory of competing governments carefully before you decide to advocate such careless libertarian theories. And while doing that, keep in mind that property and human rights are not subject to free-market forces or competing agencies.
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