Comments on: India’s schools trump Canada’s? http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/ Sat, 17 May 2008 05:34:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Prashant http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-46238 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 06:22:22 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-46238 I think the conclusion you derived is wrong. For the simple fact that all the kid complaint was about Indian schools being too tough compared to Canadian schools. Unless you wanna conclude: Being tough = Being good your conclusion is wrong. I have been to colleges in India, and US both. Indian schools are killers in terms of sheer competition, but they have nothing much to offer in quality. Indian colleges bomb in terms of quality and the background of the professors whereas the American public school I am studying in has professors who designed the first x86 machines in IBM, the first popular used compilers, our course books are the same books authored by them, my Dept Chair claims to be the first computer nerd(in the 50s) and he is a NY state licensed lawyer. My other prof can teach you to write viruses after a 30 minutes lecture. Despite of all these things, the course is very informative, and exams really easy. If you just sit and listen during the lecture there is not even a single piece of paper you need to study in order to write the exam(compared to India where you had to cram the whole book). On the other hand Indian professors the the worst scum of the Industry you can find. Make no mistake, I did go to a reputable completely private engineering college with lots of money, but every thing still was scum. Lets say the blog post "India’s schools trump Canada’s?" is the curriculum for the exam, then this is how American question paper would be: 1) Why do you think Rohan finds Indian schools tough? 2) Can toughness of curriculum be a criteria for quality of schools? 3) [Bonus] What is Freakonomics? Time: 30 min And this is how the Indian question paper would be: 1) What are the various URLs posted in the blog entry? 2) What are the two points raised by Yazad Jal before the reader is expected to jump and rave at Indian School system? 3) What should be a good starting point to start changing the Indian school system? 4) What was the name of the kid described in this post, and what chapter was he talking about? 5) Which country did that kid came to India from?[sic] 6) Which city did Yazad Jal volunteered in? 7) What is Parent-Teacher association? 8) What are Arts and Craft classes? 9) How old was the kid? What grade do you think he is in? 10) What was the date on which this blog was published on? Time: 30 min Now of course Indian question paper is hard to do, but who is doing a better job at testing your actual knowledge. Basically 10 years from now, which will help you more, cramming the date on which the blog was posted, or having an opinion about criteria of a good school?? I think the conclusion you derived is wrong. For the simple fact that all the kid complaint was about Indian schools being too tough compared to Canadian schools.

Unless you wanna conclude:
Being tough = Being good

your conclusion is wrong.

I have been to colleges in India, and US both. Indian schools are killers in terms of sheer competition, but they have nothing much to offer in quality.

Indian colleges bomb in terms of quality and the background of the professors whereas the American public school I am studying in has professors who designed the first x86 machines in IBM, the first popular used compilers, our course books are the same books authored by them, my Dept Chair claims to be the first computer nerd(in the 50s) and he is a NY state licensed lawyer. My other prof can teach you to write viruses after a 30 minutes lecture.

Despite of all these things, the course is very informative, and exams really easy. If you just sit and listen during the lecture there is not even a single piece of paper you need to study in order to write the exam(compared to India where you had to cram the whole book).

On the other hand Indian professors the the worst scum of the Industry you can find. Make no mistake, I did go to a reputable completely private engineering college with lots of money, but every thing still was scum.

Lets say the blog post “India’s schools trump Canada’s?” is the curriculum for the exam, then this is how American question paper would be:
1) Why do you think Rohan finds Indian schools tough?
2) Can toughness of curriculum be a criteria for quality of schools?
3) [Bonus] What is Freakonomics?
Time: 30 min

And this is how the Indian question paper would be:
1) What are the various URLs posted in the blog entry?
2) What are the two points raised by Yazad Jal before the reader is expected to jump and rave at Indian School system?
3) What should be a good starting point to start changing the Indian school system?
4) What was the name of the kid described in this post, and what chapter was he talking about?
5) Which country did that kid came to India from?[sic]
6) Which city did Yazad Jal volunteered in?
7) What is Parent-Teacher association?
8) What are Arts and Craft classes?
9) How old was the kid? What grade do you think he is in?
10) What was the date on which this blog was published on?
Time: 30 min

Now of course Indian question paper is hard to do, but who is doing a better job at testing your actual knowledge. Basically 10 years from now, which will help you more, cramming the date on which the blog was posted, or having an opinion about criteria of a good school??

]]> by: sasrdf http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-25109 Sun, 27 May 2007 22:29:37 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-25109 fgtdfhbm,. fgtdfhbm,.

]]> by: VRATY SANU http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-20590 Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:43:17 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-20590 Actually,the eduation system of Canada is well for canadians.Our education is good for us.so,it is useless to compare both. Actually,the eduation system of Canada is well for canadians.Our education is good for us.so,it is useless to compare both.

]]> by: James http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-17837 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:04:54 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-17837 The problem with comparing Indias schools to schools across Canada is that it completely ignores how the education system works in Canada. Constitutionally, education is administed by the provincial gov'ts, and each province (like a state) has different standards. Unlike in India, the federal gov't of Canada does not administer any schools anywhere in the country, and has no control over standards. Consequently, the educational standards across Canada vary, and some provinces have significantly higher standards than others. Some Canadians move from one province to another only to be placed several grades higher, others have similar experiences to Rohan and find themselves struggling to catch up with their fellow Canadians. It all depends on what you're talking about, really. The problem with comparing Indias schools to schools across Canada is that it completely ignores how the education system works in Canada. Constitutionally, education is administed by the provincial gov’ts, and each province (like a state) has different standards. Unlike in India, the federal gov’t of Canada does not administer any schools anywhere in the country, and has no control over standards. Consequently, the educational standards across Canada vary, and some provinces have significantly higher standards than others. Some Canadians move from one province to another only to be placed several grades higher, others have similar experiences to Rohan and find themselves struggling to catch up with their fellow Canadians. It all depends on what you’re talking about, really.

]]> by: Roohi http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-17130 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 07:26:40 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-17130 This is probably coming in way too late, but I agree with Rohan too. I'm a student of the convent school in Mumbai, post which I left for my bachelors in the States. The classes i took, Math, Statistics & History were very easy for me. The syllabus was very similar to the Math I studeid in 8/9th Standard in the SSC board. If the SSC board, which i pressume comes last in difficulty to the other school boards can teach me US college level Maths; I am sure ICSC & CBSC excel in eduation levels as compared to US schools. Through personal expereince, I've known that education in the US/Canada till high school is mostly concentrated on building personality rather than bookish education. In India, creating and influecing student's personality is never a priority/criteria, bookish eduation rules all the education levels. This may be the reason why Rohan thinks Indian schools are much tougher! And his Canadian education gave him the confidence to argue the author's word. (how many of us have questioned what we had to 'mugg up' for our boards?) - i've recently found this blog..hope you continue to write... This is probably coming in way too late, but I agree with Rohan too. I’m a student of the convent school in Mumbai, post which I left for my bachelors in the States. The classes i took, Math, Statistics & History were very easy for me. The syllabus was very similar to the Math I studeid in 8/9th Standard in the SSC board. If the SSC board, which i pressume comes last in difficulty to the other school boards can teach me US college level Maths; I am sure ICSC & CBSC excel in eduation levels as compared to US schools.

Through personal expereince, I’ve known that education in the US/Canada till high school is mostly concentrated on building personality rather than bookish education. In India, creating and influecing student’s personality is never a priority/criteria, bookish eduation rules all the education levels.

This may be the reason why Rohan thinks Indian schools are much tougher! And his Canadian education gave him the confidence to argue the author’s word. (how many of us have questioned what we had to ‘mugg up’ for our boards?)

- i’ve recently found this blog..hope you continue to write…

]]> by: Salauddeen http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-11627 Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:44:21 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-11627 Students in independent schools in the UK always do better then government maintained schools. Mainly this is due to the better quality of teachers that Independent schools can afford to hire at better salaries. They also have very strict discipline and usually expel problem kids so that the final batch of school leavers are well above-average. The state run schools are not permitted to be selective and this reflects in their results. Students in independent schools in the UK always do better then government maintained schools. Mainly this is due to the better quality of teachers that Independent schools can afford to hire at better salaries. They also have very strict discipline and usually expel problem kids so that the final batch of school leavers are well above-average.

The state run schools are not permitted to be selective and this reflects in their results.

]]> by: GAURAV SINGAL http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-8528 Sat, 10 Jun 2006 04:07:33 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-8528 HI I TOTALLY AGREE TO WHAT ROHAN HAS SAID IN HIS STATEMENT.I DO FEEL MYSELF THAT THE ELITE SCHOOLS BACK IN INDIA ARE FAR AHEAD THAN SCHOOLS ELSEWHERE IN WESTERN SETUP.WHAT MAKES THESE SCHOOLS DIFFERENT ARE THE WELL EQUIPPED STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION.ADDED TO IT IS THE EDUCATIONAL CURRICULUM WE HAVE BACK HOME.IN THE BACKDROP OF ALL THIS IF U HAVE THE PRIVILEGE STUDYING IN THESE ELITE SCHOOLS BACK IN INDIA ,UR BOUND TO BE FAR AHEAD THAN UR COUNTERPARTS ELSEWHERE. HI
I TOTALLY AGREE TO WHAT ROHAN HAS SAID IN HIS STATEMENT.I DO FEEL MYSELF THAT THE ELITE SCHOOLS BACK IN INDIA ARE FAR AHEAD THAN SCHOOLS ELSEWHERE IN WESTERN SETUP.WHAT MAKES THESE SCHOOLS DIFFERENT ARE THE WELL EQUIPPED STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION.ADDED TO IT IS THE EDUCATIONAL CURRICULUM WE HAVE BACK HOME.IN THE BACKDROP OF ALL THIS IF U HAVE THE PRIVILEGE STUDYING IN THESE ELITE SCHOOLS BACK IN INDIA ,UR BOUND TO BE FAR AHEAD THAN UR COUNTERPARTS ELSEWHERE.

]]> by: Jag http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-7989 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:27:59 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-7989 Hey yazad imma student at Edmonton Public shool in canada , grade 10, i want to India for Grade 11 and higher studies. Am i doing the right thing or not? I was born in India , and did my education there for grade 5 to 8. Please tell me is it right or no. I am gonna go there but just wanna know if its right or wrong? Hey yazad
imma student at Edmonton Public shool in canada , grade 10, i want to India for Grade 11 and higher studies. Am i doing the right thing or not? I was born in India , and did my education there for grade 5 to 8. Please tell me is it right or no. I am gonna go there but just wanna know if its right or wrong?

]]> by: Niketan http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-7982 Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:06:29 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-7982 Yazad My first entry here. This is spot on. Sandeep - it is not true. The ICSE/CBSE curriculum is much better. But the main point is not just the curriculum, public education has suffered due to lack of teachers, facilities. The East Asians particularly Singapore has done much better in this regard. Yazad
My first entry here. This is spot on. Sandeep - it is not true. The ICSE/CBSE curriculum is much better. But the main point is not just the curriculum, public education has suffered due to lack of teachers, facilities. The East Asians particularly Singapore has done much better in this regard.

]]> by: Wild Reeds http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-7974 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:53:42 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/03/22/indias-schools-trump-canadas/#comment-7974 You are right. Elite schools in India are probably among the best in the world, not only for schooling but all sorts of higher education like engineering, medicine, law, management etc. However one must admit that the rote learning system in India creates better informed students - though prima facie it seems that it is a lot of unnecessary knowledge, it gives them a broad view of the world. Your Canadian Rohan's experience is mirrored by Suketu Mehta in a reverse way in his fantastic book "Maximum City" about Bombay. He went to the US and found himself easily ahead of all his classmates in Maths, though he was considered very weak in the subject in Bombay. You are right. Elite schools in India are probably among the best in the world, not only for schooling but all sorts of higher education like engineering, medicine, law, management etc. However one must admit that the rote learning system in India creates better informed students - though prima facie it seems that it is a lot of unnecessary knowledge, it gives them a broad view of the world. Your Canadian Rohan’s experience is mirrored by Suketu Mehta in a reverse way in his fantastic book “Maximum City” about Bombay. He went to the US and found himself easily ahead of all his classmates in Maths, though he was considered very weak in the subject in Bombay.

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