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]]> by: On Morality in India, c. 2006 : …no third solution http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-21193 Mon, 02 Apr 2007 03:48:34 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-21193 [...] In The Bigger Morality, Yazad Jal, of Mumbai, India presents a great social commentary on the state of Morality in Indian affairs - specifically the backwards focus on sexual morality as it concerns the day-to-day life of present-day Indians. Jal believes (rightly so, I think) that the far greater measure is the economic morality, his argument culminates thusly: [...] […] In The Bigger Morality, Yazad Jal, of Mumbai, India presents a great social commentary on the state of Morality in Indian affairs - specifically the backwards focus on sexual morality as it concerns the day-to-day life of present-day Indians. Jal believes (rightly so, I think) that the far greater measure is the economic morality, his argument culminates thusly: […]

]]> by: pranab sarkar http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-9171 Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:40:27 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-9171 by mentality i am a hippie: 'extreme' liberalism in socio-political issues and issues of life are my opinion and principle. therefore, i really appreciate your article and hope to hear from you about a pragmatic solution to the problems caused by moral police(goons). honestly, it is the work of perverts to suppress sexual freedom in a society which has begun to gain education. by mentality i am a hippie: ‘extreme’ liberalism in socio-political issues and issues of life are my opinion and principle. therefore, i really appreciate your article and hope to hear from you about a pragmatic solution to the problems caused by moral police(goons).
honestly, it is the work of perverts to suppress sexual freedom in a society which has begun to gain education.

]]> by: uscroger http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7433 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 04:07:18 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7433 Bigger divorce rate in the US is due to higher stress. But, the issue is a bit less about morality and more so about disliking seeing people kiss in public--I think it has to do with etiquette and manners and not morality, as you mention. Bigger divorce rate in the US is due to higher stress. But, the issue is a bit less about morality and more so about disliking seeing people kiss in public–I think it has to do with etiquette and manners and not morality, as you mention.

]]> by: Well http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7380 Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:44:21 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7380 Brilliant post! It is high-time we started to hold our leaders accountable. Democracy does not mean elected leaders get to do whatever they want; rape, loot, pillage (it is clearly absurd, right? ) It is time India introspects about the periodic ritual of democratic elections. Elections are meaningless unless the duties of the elected leader (whether it be municipal cleaning, or maintenance of roads) are clearly specified, and are so specified are the limits to his power. The people should be able to restrict, and specify, the power of their "leaders". A leader should not have a moral carte-blanche in his actions, just because he won some democratic election. We can do more than shrug; we can, and we should. We should demand to specify the limits of his power. And by "we" - I mean the middle-class. We have the most to lose. The rich hobknob with politicians, and the poor have no clue. We should STRIKE - take our cars and park them in the streets; park them in front of the politician's houses; we should ORGANISE, we should PROTEST- We should get PRESS attention. We should get our hands dirty; we should do more than just discuss... The concept of Democracy should not legitimise the nefarious morals, and immoral actions, of any elected official. MIDDLE CLASS FOR ACCOUNTABILITY. Vande Mataram. Brilliant post! It is high-time we started to hold our leaders accountable.

Democracy does not mean elected leaders get to do whatever they want; rape, loot, pillage (it is clearly absurd, right? )

It is time India introspects about the periodic ritual of democratic elections. Elections are meaningless unless the duties of the elected leader (whether it be municipal cleaning, or maintenance of roads) are clearly specified, and are so specified are the limits to his power.

The people should be able to restrict, and specify, the power of their “leaders”. A leader should not have a moral carte-blanche in his actions, just because he won some democratic election. We can do more than shrug; we can, and we should.

We should demand to specify the limits of his power. And by “we” - I mean the middle-class. We have the most to lose. The rich hobknob with politicians, and the poor have no clue.

We should STRIKE - take our cars and park them in the streets; park them in front of the politician’s houses; we should ORGANISE, we should PROTEST- We should get PRESS attention. We should get our hands dirty; we should do more than just discuss…

The concept of Democracy should not legitimise the nefarious morals, and immoral actions, of any elected official.

MIDDLE CLASS FOR ACCOUNTABILITY. Vande Mataram.

]]> by: doinkicarus http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7285 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:03:08 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7285 very insightful piece, I think I'll link to it. very insightful piece, I think I’ll link to it.

]]> by: gawker http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7284 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:06:05 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7284 That should have been Mr Sauvik, not Mr Yazad Jal. That should have been Mr Sauvik, not Mr Yazad Jal.

]]> by: gawker http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7283 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:04:32 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7283 Chaitanya in concluding that societies in the US are breaking down, you cite a higher incidence of divorces in that country to back your statement. Pray how does the fact that the US has more people getting divorced automatically lead to your assumption that its society is breaking down? Couldn't a breakdown of law and order of such as in India more closely be approximated to be a societal breakdown than husband and wives deciding they don't want to live with each other any more? In fact, in case of an unhappy marriage, wouldn't it be better if the couple divorced rather than spend their lives being miserable with each other out of a false sense of morality? A view such as yours in itself is what Mr Yazad Jal is speaking out against. I think. Chaitanya in concluding that societies in the US are breaking down, you cite a higher incidence of divorces in that country to back your statement. Pray how does the fact that the US has more people getting divorced automatically lead to your assumption that its society is breaking down? Couldn’t a breakdown of law and order of such as in India more closely be approximated to be a societal breakdown than husband and wives deciding they don’t want to live with each other any more? In fact, in case of an unhappy marriage, wouldn’t it be better if the couple divorced rather than spend their lives being miserable with each other out of a false sense of morality? A view such as yours in itself is what Mr Yazad Jal is speaking out against. I think.

]]> by: Third Eye http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7278 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:54:34 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7278 I believe there are far more greater issues plaguing this nation rather than couples kissing on the dance floor or running around trees in Meerut. Could the cops or the establishment be looking for the much needed limelight by going into acts like Operation Majnu? Could it be like, "look we can't cleanse the country of criminals, so here we are..doing our best to atleast cleanse it from acts which are not in Indian culture?" Ha! In the land of Kama Sutra, Konark and Khajuraho, this is a scathing vindictment of our own culture. Sexuality is and has always been a part of us. Cheers! PS: I read that your blog was featured as one of the top 10 blogs in the nation today. (Courtesy: Pitch). That's how I came to know about this. Congratulations, anyways! :-) I believe there are far more greater issues plaguing this nation rather than couples kissing on the dance floor or running around trees in Meerut. Could the cops or the establishment be looking for the much needed limelight by going into acts like Operation Majnu? Could it be like, “look we can’t cleanse the country of criminals, so here we are..doing our best to atleast cleanse it from acts which are not in Indian culture?” Ha!
In the land of Kama Sutra, Konark and Khajuraho, this is a scathing vindictment of our own culture. Sexuality is and has always been a part of us.
Cheers!

PS: I read that your blog was featured as one of the top 10 blogs in the nation today. (Courtesy: Pitch). That’s how I came to know about this. Congratulations, anyways! :-)

]]> by: Krishna http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7209 Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:11:17 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2006/02/17/the-bigger-morality/#comment-7209 Chaitanya, the issue here is who defines what morality is. For X, it is <em>immoral</em> to have sex before marriage, while for me, it is perfectly alright. Now X has the right to pursue his/her definition and propagate its morality among people. But X has no right to stop me from doing what I want as long as I do not harm anyone. Same thing applies to any issue of culture or sexual morality. On the other hand, economic immorality as portrayed in the article is truly immoral, because it impedes individual rights of some people. So if governments take upon themselves to preserve morality, it must be economic morality and not cultural/sexual morality. Preserving that must be left to individuals/groups of individuals according to their own versions, as long as their methods are non-violent. Chaitanya, the issue here is who defines what morality is. For X, it is immoral to have sex before marriage, while for me, it is perfectly alright. Now X has the right to pursue his/her definition and propagate its morality among people. But X has no right to stop me from doing what I want as long as I do not harm anyone. Same thing applies to any issue of culture or sexual morality.

On the other hand, economic immorality as portrayed in the article is truly immoral, because it impedes individual rights of some people. So if governments take upon themselves to preserve morality, it must be economic morality and not cultural/sexual morality. Preserving that must be left to individuals/groups of individuals according to their own versions, as long as their methods are non-violent.

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