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		<title>by: Quizman</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2005/01/11/corruption-regular-zone/#comment-2695</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A point of clarification. You stated that &lt;blockquote&gt;In a free world people should be allowed to take the risks they want to. They would also develop mechanisms that reduce the risk, like buying insurance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To fully ensure that the risks are &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt;borne by the people who do these ill-advised constructions is to reduce the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_hazard&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moral hazard&lt;/a&gt; caused by disaster relief. However, I do not know if it has been conclusively proven that relief can cause moral hazard - or that lack of relief can reduce risky behavior. Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A point of clarification. You stated that<br />
<blockquote>In a free world people should be allowed to take the risks they want to. They would also develop mechanisms that reduce the risk, like buying insurance.</p></blockquote>
<p>To fully ensure that the risks are <i>only</i>borne by the people who do these ill-advised constructions is to reduce the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_hazard" rel="nofollow">moral hazard</a> caused by disaster relief. However, I do not know if it has been conclusively proven that relief can cause moral hazard - or that lack of relief can reduce risky behavior. Any ideas?
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		<title>by: Ram</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2005/01/11/corruption-regular-zone/#comment-2696</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey man I agree with your view that ownership breeds the greatest interest to protect. People do not feel they own their environment and so do what the hell they like. But unfortunately the capitalism in relation to the environment is an unreversible process. The free market may work but if some imperfection take place and a failure occurs e.g the mass scale dumping of nuclear waste then we have catastrophic market failure and then we are truly screwed. So perhaps the market is not always the be all and end all of everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man I agree with your view that ownership breeds the greatest interest to protect. People do not feel they own their environment and so do what the hell they like. But unfortunately the capitalism in relation to the environment is an unreversible process. The free market may work but if some imperfection take place and a failure occurs e.g the mass scale dumping of nuclear waste then we have catastrophic market failure and then we are truly screwed. So perhaps the market is not always the be all and end all of everything.
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		<title>by: Ravikiran Rao</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2005/01/11/corruption-regular-zone/#comment-2697</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Quizman, theoretically, yes relief should cause moral hazard, but I suspect the effect is very small - like life insurance causing moral hazard by increasing the risk of suicide. Who will build a flimsy house thinking &quot;What the hell, if it collapses, I'll get some meagre and uncertain relief from the government&quot;?

On the other hand, &lt;i&gt;insurance&lt;/i&gt; may cause moral hazard in some cases -  if its a lossmaking hotel and part of a hotel chain, then the management's carelessness about the construction of the hotel might go up a notch because the hotel is insured. Which is why we need a well-functioning tort system so that they can be sued by those whose lives were put in danger by bad construction. 

Ram, markets aren't perfect, but they are better than the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quizman, theoretically, yes relief should cause moral hazard, but I suspect the effect is very small - like life insurance causing moral hazard by increasing the risk of suicide. Who will build a flimsy house thinking &#8220;What the hell, if it collapses, I&#8217;ll get some meagre and uncertain relief from the government&#8221;?</p>
<p>On the other hand, <i>insurance</i> may cause moral hazard in some cases -  if its a lossmaking hotel and part of a hotel chain, then the management&#8217;s carelessness about the construction of the hotel might go up a notch because the hotel is insured. Which is why we need a well-functioning tort system so that they can be sued by those whose lives were put in danger by bad construction. </p>
<p>Ram, markets aren&#8217;t perfect, but they are better than the government.
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		<title>by: Yazad</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2005/01/11/corruption-regular-zone/#comment-2698</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ram's comment reminds me of an aphorism 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Some people are dissatisfied with free enterprise if it doesn't work perfectly and satisfied with government if it works at all&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Ravi makes a similar point in another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yazadjal.com/mt/archives/000489.html#003309&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comment&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ram&#8217;s comment reminds me of an aphorism </p>
<p><b><i>Some people are dissatisfied with free enterprise if it doesn&#8217;t work perfectly and satisfied with government if it works at all</i></b></p>
<p>Ravi makes a similar point in another <a href="http://www.yazadjal.com/mt/archives/000489.html#003309" rel="nofollow">comment</a>.
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		<title>by: howzlifedude</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2005/01/11/corruption-regular-zone/#comment-2699</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>May sound naive with this question with the level of discussion happening.But couldnot resist from asking

But dont you need govt support when the people are in trouble (like this 2004 tsunami).Then why shouldnt the govt enforce laws to prevent it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May sound naive with this question with the level of discussion happening.But couldnot resist from asking</p>
<p>But dont you need govt support when the people are in trouble (like this 2004 tsunami).Then why shouldnt the govt enforce laws to prevent it.
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		<title>by: Quizman</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2005/01/11/corruption-regular-zone/#comment-2700</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>howzlifedude,

My guess is that a large number of government officials, including publicly elected ones, must've pocketed money to allow those illegal constructions remain in place. 

You raised a good point. If the Indian judicial system did function properly, Indian taxpayers could have sued the local municipalities and other govt bodies for &lt;i&gt;not enforcing&lt;/i&gt; their own laws. Going further, any punitive damages awarded in such a lawsuit, would be paid by the individuals, out of their own pocket. i.e. the govt bodies should not bear the cost.

Such a lawsuit will send a strong signal to (a) lawmakers, to not make spurious laws (b) law enforcers, to enforce whatever laws remain. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>howzlifedude,</p>
<p>My guess is that a large number of government officials, including publicly elected ones, must&#8217;ve pocketed money to allow those illegal constructions remain in place. </p>
<p>You raised a good point. If the Indian judicial system did function properly, Indian taxpayers could have sued the local municipalities and other govt bodies for <i>not enforcing</i> their own laws. Going further, any punitive damages awarded in such a lawsuit, would be paid by the individuals, out of their own pocket. i.e. the govt bodies should not bear the cost.</p>
<p>Such a lawsuit will send a strong signal to (a) lawmakers, to not make spurious laws (b) law enforcers, to enforce whatever laws remain.
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