Comments on: Dahi and social transformation http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:31:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Sameer http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2124 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2124 Hmmm... now that is what I call, Food for Thought!! Hmmm… now that is what I call, Food for Thought!!

]]> by: seven_times_six http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2125 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2125 Most of societal mindsets/policies stem from three sources: a. Biological - inbuilt into our genes b. Semi-Rational Thought c. "popular/existing" thoughts in society. Note that c. is circular, and conceivably the most flawed too. It is also apparently the most widespread - accounting for most, if not all, of our mindsets. The one thing that is good with c. is the one you've alluded to in your post: namely they are the products of semi-rational thoughts (source b.) of better beings. Unfortunately, many times, since these mindsets are semi-rational, even though they come from loftier souls, they tend to be destructive [eg Marxism from Karl Marx, a fellow smarter than most of current humanity] From a first look at above, one might think hey, all one needs for a perfect society is a yardstick of strict rigor to complete-rationality in public policy. Unfortunately strict-rationality is not possible most often. This might be obvious to some - I shall elaborate this in a blog-post. Most of societal mindsets/policies stem from three sources:
a. Biological - inbuilt into our genes
b. Semi-Rational Thought
c. “popular/existing” thoughts in society.

Note that c. is circular, and conceivably the most flawed too. It is also apparently the most widespread - accounting for most, if not all, of our mindsets.

The one thing that is good with c. is the one you’ve alluded to in your post: namely they are the products of semi-rational thoughts (source b.) of better beings.
Unfortunately, many times, since these mindsets are semi-rational, even though they come from loftier souls, they tend to be destructive [eg Marxism from Karl Marx, a fellow smarter than most of current humanity]

From a first look at above, one might think hey, all one needs for a perfect society is a yardstick of strict rigor to complete-rationality in public policy. Unfortunately strict-rationality is not possible most often. This might be obvious to some - I shall elaborate this in a blog-post.

]]> by: Amol Hatwar http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2126 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2126 Interesting indeed. Should I add we live in interesting times :). <i>We need to gauge the climate for change.</i> True, timing is important. Kepler isn't regarded as much Newton. But when Newton said, "If I have seen farther it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants"; he was refering to Kepler. Unfortunately, Kepler lived about 400 years before Newton Interesting indeed. Should I add we live in interesting times :).

We need to gauge the climate for change.

True, timing is important. Kepler isn’t regarded as much Newton. But when Newton said, “If I have seen farther it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants”; he was refering to Kepler.

Unfortunately, Kepler lived about 400 years before Newton

]]> by: Prakash http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2127 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2127 Aren't we being too optmistic in assuming an irreversible process of going from milk to curd as our metaphor? The americans actually turned away from liberty toward statism. there is no way to make certain that a freer indian society also won't turn the other way. Aren’t we being too optmistic in assuming an irreversible process of going from milk to curd as our metaphor? The americans actually turned away from liberty toward statism. there is no way to make certain that a freer indian society also won’t turn the other way.

]]> by: Yazad http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2128 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2128 Prakash, you're taking it too literally. Plus I don't think America went the "reverse way" -- they moved from a monarchy to a classical liberal state and then on to a left-liberal hotch potch with many stops on the way. It's like from A to B and then to C. Now C shares some similarities with A, but it is not A. Prakash, you’re taking it too literally.
Plus I don’t think America went the “reverse way” — they moved from a monarchy to a classical liberal state and then on to a left-liberal hotch potch with many stops on the way. It’s like from A to B and then to C. Now C shares some similarities with A, but it is not A.

]]> by: ravi http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2129 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2129 amol - kepler lived 1571-1630. newton 1642-1727. no 400 years difference . amol - kepler lived 1571-1630. newton 1642-1727. no 400 years difference .

]]> by: Amol Hatwar http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2130 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/07/dahi-and-social-transformation/#comment-2130 Yeap ravi, That was supposed to sound like Newton lived 300 years ago while Kepler lived 400 years ago. You caught me there... Note to self: Never edit and post comments in a hurry. They echo forever! Yeap ravi,

That was supposed to sound like Newton lived 300 years ago while Kepler lived 400 years ago. You caught me there…

Note to self: Never edit and post comments in a hurry. They echo forever!

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