Comments on: Alternatives to marriage http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:50:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Ravikiran Rao http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2104 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2104 Why is marriage registration any more controversial than land registration? Why is marriage registration any more controversial than land registration?

]]> by: Ck http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2105 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2105 There are several legal reasons why it makes sense for the state (or any other regulating entity pvt pr public I don't care) to be involved. 1] Insurance - health, car, life - difficult to apply your health insurance to your partner if there is no legal document to say that it is in fact your partner. My company (and the health insurance agency) would have a blue-fit if I asked that my partner for the moment be on my insurance papers. 2] Visitiation Rights/Access to medical documents - only your legal partner can have rights to visit you in hospital and view your medical records and make decisions about your life if you're incapicitated. 3] Child legal custody rights 4] Tax benefits 5] Home Ownership ...the list is endless - which is why Gay and Lesbian groups are fighting for the right to 'legal' marriage i.e. a union recognized by the state because of all the benefits they can get. There are several legal reasons why it makes sense for the state (or any other regulating entity pvt pr public I don’t care) to be involved.
1] Insurance - health, car, life - difficult to apply your health insurance to your partner if there is no legal document to say that it is in fact your partner. My company (and the health insurance agency) would have a blue-fit if I asked that my partner for the moment be on my insurance papers.

2] Visitiation Rights/Access to medical documents - only your legal partner can have rights to visit you in hospital and view your medical records and make decisions about your life if you’re incapicitated.

3] Child legal custody rights

4] Tax benefits

5] Home Ownership
…the list is endless - which is why Gay and Lesbian groups are fighting for the right to ‘legal’ marriage i.e. a union recognized by the state because of all the benefits they can get.

]]> by: Swati Sani http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2106 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2106 Why should an atheist libertarian choose to get married in the first place? Why should an atheist libertarian choose to get married in the first place?

]]> by: MadMan http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2107 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2107 <i>Why should an atheist libertarian choose to get married in the first place? </i> What is it about atheists or libertarians that we should be disqualified from getting married, Swati? We may not consider it to be a religious union, but it's certainly a social one. Why should an atheist libertarian choose to get married in the first place?

What is it about atheists or libertarians that we should be disqualified from getting married, Swati?

We may not consider it to be a religious union, but it’s certainly a social one.

]]> by: Nitin http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2108 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2108 Even an atheist libertarian should get married, After all, happiness is not the only thing in life. Even an atheist libertarian should get married,
After all, happiness is not the only thing in life.

]]> by: Ravikiran Rao http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2109 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2109 Well as I was telling you, Hindu (and I think Muslim too. Dunno about Christian) marriages don't have to be registered. The obvious reason for this is that otherwise men will cheat their lovers by "marrying" them in temples and then denying that there was any marriage. I think the judge will just look at proof that some kind of ceremony took place according to Hindu rites. (Incidentally, I don't think he will look too closely at whether the rites were correctly followed. If he does, he will find that Hindu scriptures talk of eight ways of marrying. The simplest ones are the Gandharva vivaha - which involves garlanding each other - and the Rakshasa vivaha - the simplest one of all- just living in. Obviously, the last one is disapproved of, but still considered valid marriage.) Many hindus do register their marriage, sometimes as much as a month after the wedding. The registration is for purposes of record and they are considered to be married from the date of wedding, not the date of registration. This seems about right to me. Well as I was telling you, Hindu (and I think Muslim too. Dunno about Christian) marriages don’t have to be registered. The obvious reason for this is that otherwise men will cheat their lovers by “marrying” them in temples and then denying that there was any marriage. I think the judge will just look at proof that some kind of ceremony took place according to Hindu rites. (Incidentally, I don’t think he will look too closely at whether the rites were correctly followed. If he does, he will find that Hindu scriptures talk of eight ways of marrying. The simplest ones are the Gandharva vivaha - which involves garlanding each other - and the Rakshasa vivaha - the simplest one of all- just living in. Obviously, the last one is disapproved of, but still considered valid marriage.)
Many hindus do register their marriage, sometimes as much as a month after the wedding. The registration is for purposes of record and they are considered to be married from the date of wedding, not the date of registration.

This seems about right to me.

]]> by: Nitin http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2110 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2110 After giving it further thought, I would contend that marriage is the ultimate cure for atheism. What's more, the institution of the mother-in-law has keep atheism at bay all this while. After giving it further thought, I would contend that marriage is the ultimate cure for atheism. What’s more, the institution of the mother-in-law has keep atheism at bay all this while.

]]> by: Yazad http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2111 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2111 I need to find an atheist (or at least agnostic) future mother-in-law. I need to find an atheist (or at least agnostic) future mother-in-law.

]]> by: Ravikiran Rao http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2112 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2112 Well why would any woman let her daughter marry you unless she has a LOT of faith in God? Well why would any woman let her daughter marry you unless she has a LOT of faith in God?

]]> by: Sameer http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2113 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/10/05/alternatives-to-marriage/#comment-2113 Or perhaps, after the daughter marries you, her mother might LOSE all faith in God! :-P Or perhaps, after the daughter marries you, her mother might LOSE all faith in God!

:-P

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