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		<title>by: seema pawaskar</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/08/17/population-and-prosperity/#comment-7800</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think all people consider population problem as a cause of other social problems but i as social work graduate do understand that population is the product of other social and economical problem so we have to understand that first

Thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all people consider population problem as a cause of other social problems but i as social work graduate do understand that population is the product of other social and economical problem so we have to understand that first</p>
<p>Thank u
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		<title>by: kautilya</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/08/17/population-and-prosperity/#comment-1802</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>well increasing population is a problem there is no doubt about that.
what the article conveys is that if a vast majority i.e. over 75% of the popoulation is working then the country will grow faster. This is true even if the population is low but a high percentage is working.
It would be misleading to think that a large population by itself will result in the prosperity of a country infact it would be disasterous if the employment opportunity growth does not keep up with the population demand.
Lets not abandon family planning yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well increasing population is a problem there is no doubt about that.<br />
what the article conveys is that if a vast majority i.e. over 75% of the popoulation is working then the country will grow faster. This is true even if the population is low but a high percentage is working.<br />
It would be misleading to think that a large population by itself will result in the prosperity of a country infact it would be disasterous if the employment opportunity growth does not keep up with the population demand.<br />
Lets not abandon family planning yet.
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		<title>by: Yazad</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/08/17/population-and-prosperity/#comment-1803</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>And how exactly is increasing population a &quot;problem&quot;?

&lt;i&gt;the article conveys is that if a vast majority i.e. over 75% of the popoulation is working then the country will grow faster&lt;/i&gt;

Really? Where? I'd be hard pressed to name even one country where 75% of the population is working. Can you?

I have never said that &lt;i&gt;large&lt;/i&gt; population by itself leads to prosperity. Sauvik's work (and I concur with his views) basically states that people are the main creators of wealth. So population (large or small) causes prosperity. If you see a country with a large population but poor, then there's something else causing that poverty.

BTW, &lt;i&gt;employment opportunity growth&lt;/i&gt; sounds like one more tired cliché from the socialist eras. If we have a free market, we wouldn't be talking about it. We'd be seeing it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how exactly is increasing population a &#8220;problem&#8221;?</p>
<p><i>the article conveys is that if a vast majority i.e. over 75% of the popoulation is working then the country will grow faster</i></p>
<p>Really? Where? I&#8217;d be hard pressed to name even one country where 75% of the population is working. Can you?</p>
<p>I have never said that <i>large</i> population by itself leads to prosperity. Sauvik&#8217;s work (and I concur with his views) basically states that people are the main creators of wealth. So population (large or small) causes prosperity. If you see a country with a large population but poor, then there&#8217;s something else causing that poverty.</p>
<p>BTW, <i>employment opportunity growth</i> sounds like one more tired cliché from the socialist eras. If we have a free market, we wouldn&#8217;t be talking about it. We&#8217;d be seeing it happen.
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		<title>by: kautilya</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/08/17/population-and-prosperity/#comment-1804</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>well both us and japan two of the most industrialised countries reached where they are when a high percentage of the population was working.
now that the demographics are changing they will have a greater number of pensioners as compared to the working population and therefore their economy will slowdown in the years to come.

india had a bigger population than us and european countries for the better part of its independent existence and where is the prosperity due to population.

free market will definitly ensure faster growth &amp; in case of india superfast growth but that will happen even with a low population. singapore and the noradic countries score high on free market ratings have low population and are prosperous</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well both us and japan two of the most industrialised countries reached where they are when a high percentage of the population was working.<br />
now that the demographics are changing they will have a greater number of pensioners as compared to the working population and therefore their economy will slowdown in the years to come.</p>
<p>india had a bigger population than us and european countries for the better part of its independent existence and where is the prosperity due to population.</p>
<p>free market will definitly ensure faster growth &#038; in case of india superfast growth but that will happen even with a low population. singapore and the noradic countries score high on free market ratings have low population and are prosperous
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		<title>by: Ck.</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/08/17/population-and-prosperity/#comment-1805</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think you are missing an important aspect - as I am an environmental consultant I am concerned with the costs of population growtg. As this report reveals, 
http://www.ecouncil.ac.cr/rio/focus/report/english/footprint/ranking.htm

India is currently running at a eco deficit of 0.3 contributed directly to by the size of the population. As the economy grows, the per capita foot print will only continue to grow. I see this as a serious problem given that we are already running at a deficit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are missing an important aspect - as I am an environmental consultant I am concerned with the costs of population growtg. As this report reveals,<br />
<a href='http://www.ecouncil.ac.cr/rio/focus/report/english/footprint/ranking.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.ecouncil.ac.cr/rio/focus/report/english/footprint/ranking.htm</a></p>
<p>India is currently running at a eco deficit of 0.3 contributed directly to by the size of the population. As the economy grows, the per capita foot print will only continue to grow. I see this as a serious problem given that we are already running at a deficit.
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		<title>by: Yazad</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/08/17/population-and-prosperity/#comment-1806</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ck, I vaguely remember this ecological footprint stuff. Let me dig out something. This should do: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techcentralstation.com/052504D.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Measuring Santa Monica's Feet&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Their first error is that they regard resources as something that exist &lt;i&gt;ab initio&lt;/i&gt;. There is great play made of the fact that there is only so much arable land to go around, and that it is this land that tends to get built on. This whole idea is of course completely ignorant. Resources are created by human beings via technology. As arable means &quot;suitable for ploughing&quot; it is obvious that before we invented the plough and agriculture some 10,000 years ago there was no such thing as &quot;arable land.&quot; There was just &quot;land.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Plus, please do not post &quot;naked&quot; urls. There is a formatting toolbar on the comment box. Click on the &quot;link&quot; button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ck, I vaguely remember this ecological footprint stuff. Let me dig out something. This should do: <a href="http://www.techcentralstation.com/052504D.html" rel="nofollow">Measuring Santa Monica&#8217;s Feet</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Their first error is that they regard resources as something that exist <i>ab initio</i>. There is great play made of the fact that there is only so much arable land to go around, and that it is this land that tends to get built on. This whole idea is of course completely ignorant. Resources are created by human beings via technology. As arable means &#8220;suitable for ploughing&#8221; it is obvious that before we invented the plough and agriculture some 10,000 years ago there was no such thing as &#8220;arable land.&#8221; There was just &#8220;land.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Plus, please do not post &#8220;naked&#8221; urls. There is a formatting toolbar on the comment box. Click on the &#8220;link&#8221; button.
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		<title>by: Yazad</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/08/17/population-and-prosperity/#comment-1807</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Kautilya,

There is a difference between 
(a) the US and Japan have a lower paercent of their population as working now compared to 20 years back and
(b) the US and Japan had 75% of their population as working.

(a) I agree with. (b) has no foundation in fact. 

India's prosperity has been hampered by various other factors. Read the pdf booklet by Sauvik Chakraverti. 

I fully agree that freer markets ensure faster growth. Note, to your Singapore I can add Vietnam. Small population -- quite poor. So lets focus on freeing our markets and ignore the &quot;population&quot; part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kautilya,</p>
<p>There is a difference between<br />
(a) the US and Japan have a lower paercent of their population as working now compared to 20 years back and<br />
(b) the US and Japan had 75% of their population as working.</p>
<p>(a) I agree with. (b) has no foundation in fact. </p>
<p>India&#8217;s prosperity has been hampered by various other factors. Read the pdf booklet by Sauvik Chakraverti. </p>
<p>I fully agree that freer markets ensure faster growth. Note, to your Singapore I can add Vietnam. Small population &#8212; quite poor. So lets focus on freeing our markets and ignore the &#8220;population&#8221; part.
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		<title>by: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/08/17/population-and-prosperity/#comment-1808</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The concept of ecological footprint is far more complicated than just arable land - it is the amount of natural resources used to create a product. In many cases these are not taken into account. A classic exmaple is microchip manufacturing - seems like a great non-polluting industry doesn't it - no smoke-stacks - and seems to use nothing but silicon and copper. In reality the chip industry is of the most hazardous and each chip produces severa times its weight in hazardous and corrosive chemicals. Additionally (I don't have the exact figures but you can look it up) the manufacture of each chips requires hundreds of gallons of water which again cannot be re-used because it picks up haz chemicals. 

To the avg. consumer a wafer thin silicon chip looks innocent and non-polluting - but in reality the materials that go into its production and its by-products are many times more. 

This is where ecological foot print comes in. You can't afford to think only about the production of the chip but you also have to think about where the resources (sometimes direct and at other time indirect) come from and also what happens to the by-products - currently drums and drums of highly toxic water which are stored because it is to expensive to treat safely - also the reason why chip manufacturers move thier operations to developing countries becase they quite happily dump the water into our water table - un acceptable in the US.

So if I were you I'd more closely investigate the concept of eco footprint. Companies like HP, 3M and Boeing have all embraced the concept and calculate eco foot prints for thier products and have adopted a cradle-grave product tracking system. 

BTW your link system doesn't seem to work for me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of ecological footprint is far more complicated than just arable land - it is the amount of natural resources used to create a product. In many cases these are not taken into account. A classic exmaple is microchip manufacturing - seems like a great non-polluting industry doesn&#8217;t it - no smoke-stacks - and seems to use nothing but silicon and copper. In reality the chip industry is of the most hazardous and each chip produces severa times its weight in hazardous and corrosive chemicals. Additionally (I don&#8217;t have the exact figures but you can look it up) the manufacture of each chips requires hundreds of gallons of water which again cannot be re-used because it picks up haz chemicals. </p>
<p>To the avg. consumer a wafer thin silicon chip looks innocent and non-polluting - but in reality the materials that go into its production and its by-products are many times more. </p>
<p>This is where ecological foot print comes in. You can&#8217;t afford to think only about the production of the chip but you also have to think about where the resources (sometimes direct and at other time indirect) come from and also what happens to the by-products - currently drums and drums of highly toxic water which are stored because it is to expensive to treat safely - also the reason why chip manufacturers move thier operations to developing countries becase they quite happily dump the water into our water table - un acceptable in the US.</p>
<p>So if I were you I&#8217;d more closely investigate the concept of eco footprint. Companies like HP, 3M and Boeing have all embraced the concept and calculate eco foot prints for thier products and have adopted a cradle-grave product tracking system. </p>
<p>BTW your link system doesn&#8217;t seem to work for me
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		<title>by: Ck</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/08/17/population-and-prosperity/#comment-1809</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The Nuts Game
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.g-r-e-e-d.com/Nuts%20Game.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nuts Game<br />
<a href="http://www.g-r-e-e-d.com/Nuts%20Game.htm" rel="nofollow"></a>
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		<title>by: Ck</title>
		<link>http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/08/17/population-and-prosperity/#comment-1810</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yazad's link thing doesn't seem to work - here's the link

http://www.g-r-e-e-d.com/Nuts%20Game.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yazad&#8217;s link thing doesn&#8217;t seem to work - here&#8217;s the link</p>
<p><a href='http://www.g-r-e-e-d.com/Nuts%20Game.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.g-r-e-e-d.com/Nuts%20Game.htm</a>
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