Comments on: Economics and natural justice works for women http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/ Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:31:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Jivha http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1665 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1665 A-ha. I see we both noticed the arbitrage opportunity here ;-) A-ha. I see we both noticed the arbitrage opportunity here ;-)

]]> by: Yazad http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1666 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1666 Yes. Maybe we both should dump our jobs and set up a hedge fund. We could concentrate on emerging trends like these ;-) Yes. Maybe we both should dump our jobs and set up a hedge fund. We could concentrate on emerging trends like these ;-)

]]> by: swami http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1667 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1667 Yazad - are you stating that instead of trying to curb social evils by law, we better wait for the free-market force to slowly get bigger and bigger and tilt it the other way??? Looks like really convoluted logic to me... "Where many laws and scores of do-good initiatives have not succeeded, simple economics seems to have made a dent." How did you come to the conclusion that laws and do-good initiatives did not succeed??? And this thing did??? Yazad - are you stating that instead of trying to curb social evils by law, we better wait for the free-market force to slowly get bigger and bigger and tilt it the other way???

Looks like really convoluted logic to me…

“Where many laws and scores of do-good initiatives have not succeeded, simple economics seems to have made a dent.”

How did you come to the conclusion that laws and do-good initiatives did not succeed??? And this thing did???

]]> by: Gautam http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1668 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1668 What is likely to irk most people about your market analysis, is that it does not solve the problem NOW! ofcourse no interventionist policy will either, but it does give solace to the souls of India's emerging class of left liberals that 'something is being done about it'. Ofcourse results are not to be considered at all, the world is not a perfect place and these things are bound to have some pitfalls, but 'sarkar iske bare mein kuch to kar rahi hai'. I'm sure some enraged feminist will demand legislation banning bride-price soon. On a contrarian note, the instituition of bride-price or mehr has not really helped the cause of women in Islam, which treats marriage more contractually than any other religion I know of. What is likely to irk most people about your market analysis, is that it does not solve the problem NOW! ofcourse no interventionist policy will either, but it does give solace to the souls of India’s emerging class of left liberals that ’something is being done about it’. Ofcourse results are not to be considered at all, the world is not a perfect place and these things are bound to have some pitfalls, but ’sarkar iske bare mein kuch to kar rahi hai’. I’m sure some enraged feminist will demand legislation banning bride-price soon.

On a contrarian note, the instituition of bride-price or mehr has not really helped the cause of women in Islam, which treats marriage more contractually than any other religion I know of.

]]> by: Yazad http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1669 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1669 Swami, Yes. Social "evils" are rarely solved by simply passing a law. If that were true, we'd see no child marriages and no dowry murders, etc. Same logic leads me to the conclusion that laws and do-good initiatives have not worked. I work in the NGO sector and I've seen some of this upfront ;-) I'm not saying that the free market has solved this problem, just that the news reports show a role reversal -- which has made some dent in society. Swami, Yes. Social “evils” are rarely solved by simply passing a law. If that were true, we’d see no child marriages and no dowry murders, etc.

Same logic leads me to the conclusion that laws and do-good initiatives have not worked. I work in the NGO sector and I’ve seen some of this upfront ;-)

I’m not saying that the free market has solved this problem, just that the news reports show a role reversal — which has made some dent in society.

]]> by: swami http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1670 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1670 even though the ideal goal of law might be to "solve" social evils, i would consider a law successful if it manages to curb the evil to acceptable limits.. to do away with such laws, i dont think is practical... even though the ideal goal of law might be to “solve” social evils, i would consider a law successful if it manages to curb the evil to acceptable limits..

to do away with such laws, i dont think is practical…

]]> by: Harini http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1671 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1671 a hedge fund for women sounds like an excellent idea. Can the same logic be applied to t slavery - if an individual wants to sell himself for the rest of his/her natural life - in return for money settled on his/her family, and food, clothes and shelter would there be an reason for the Government to stop that transaction? Harini a hedge fund for women sounds like an excellent idea.
Can the same logic be applied to t slavery - if an individual wants to sell himself for the rest of his/her natural life - in return for money settled on his/her family, and food, clothes and shelter would there be an reason for the Government to stop that transaction?
Harini

]]> by: みほ http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1672 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1672 はじめまして、英語が不自由なことを先に失礼します。 そもそもが女性の人権など存在しないにもかかわらず人身売買だの奴隷だなどと批判するほうが筋違いなのです。多額の持参金を払って焼き殺される花嫁が存在する現実を鑑みれば先進国並みの女性の権利とまでは行かなくてもまずまずの男性側の譲歩を引き出せたと言えます 奴隷とは何をもって奴隷というのか？女性を武器にして王侯貴族並みの贅沢を享受してやれ自由がない愛がないと嘆いていたダイアナのような女性を言うのですか？ 仮にインドの性比率がもっと歪んで100人の男性に対して一人の女性が実現してマハラジャに金で買われ先進国の女性すら実現不可能の贅沢生活を手に入れたとしてそれが”奴隷”ですか？私は日本人ですがインドの男が嫁不足で苦しんでいるのは自業自得だと思いますよ I'd say "let it be" -- no need for regulation here. 私も大賛成ですよ はじめまして、英語が不自由なことを先に失礼します。
そもそもが女性の人権など存在しないにもかかわらず人身売買だの奴隷だなどと批判するほうが筋違いなのです。多額の持参金を払って焼き殺される花嫁が存在する現実を鑑みれば先進国並みの女性の権利とまでは行かなくてもまずまずの男性側の譲歩を引き出せたと言えます
奴隷とは何をもって奴隷というのか？女性を武器にして王侯貴族並みの贅沢を享受してやれ自由がない愛がないと嘆いていたダイアナのような女性を言うのですか？
仮にインドの性比率がもっと歪んで100人の男性に対して一人の女性が実現してマハラジャに金で買われ先進国の女性すら実現不可能の贅沢生活を手に入れたとしてそれが”奴隷”ですか？私は日本人ですがインドの男が嫁不足で苦しんでいるのは自業自得だと思いますよ
I’d say “let it be” — no need for regulation here.
私も大賛成ですよ

]]> by: Jivha - the Tongue http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1673 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/07/08/economics-and-natural-justice-works-for-women/#comment-1673 <strong>The magic of Rs.5,000</strong> Yesterday I showed you how an unscrupulous government psychologist was certifying women as mentally unsound for Rs.5,000 from their husbands who could then use the same as the reason to divorce their wives. A couple of readers and a colleague... The magic of Rs.5,000

Yesterday I showed you how an unscrupulous government psychologist was certifying women as mentally unsound for Rs.5,000 from their husbands who could then use the same as the reason to divorce their wives. A couple of readers and a colleague…

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