What does the cartel do for a living?
Published by MadMan June 15th, 2004 in LibertarianCK, ever the troll, now stoops to insulting libertarians by saying that we must be unemployed to spend so much time debating.
Libertarians on the other hand seem to be largely jobless or they have jobs which are not very demanding - out of curiosity what do members of the cartel do in real life and how many hours a day do you all work (if at all). The other career libertarian I ran into - Sauvick - seemed to spend most of his time (by his own admission) drunk or doped up.
Well gee, one fella spends a lot of time drinking, so that must mean everyone else too is the same, eh? Talk about hasty generalisations!
Just for the record, here is what we all do for a living:
Yazad is the CEO of Praja, an NGO in Mumbai. But you already knew that, CK.
Ravikiran is Project Manager at a software company.
Gaurav recently finished at IIM and now works for IBM in Bangalore.
Gautam is working towards a Master’s in Economics at the University of Mumbai.
Kingsley works at [undisclosed software company] as a usability specialist. For now.
I run a South-east Asian restaurant in Bangalore where I work from 11 AM to midnight every day (longer on weekends). Trust me that it’s a demanding job.
So we’re hardly “jobless”. Not a single one spends most of his time getting drunk and doped either.
Next time, debate the actual issues rather than bitch about the people arguing against you.
Update from Yazad: I honestly don’t care what CK thinks about us or libertarianism. His actions reveal much more than his words. He obviously has time to comment on trivialities like the cartel’s employment but no time to respond to Gaurav. That itself tells me a lot.
CK, take your time to reply. Or don’t. Up to you.
And a copywriter who, at times, has trouble with spellings.
What does Ck do?
Whatever he does, I will bet my bottom rupee that his debating was not always restricted to weekends and holidays. On the spon_order yahoogroups, there used to be a plethora of mails from him, no matter what the day.
Anyway, most of the stuff I write here does not take more than half an hour tops….but yes, if I wrote looooooooong rambling pointless posts like Ck, which get nowhere, even I would be pressed for time. :)
sounds like a busy bunch..yet the question remains unanswered: How do you find so much time to debate?
Patrix, we type very fast. :p
(Or at least I do. Close to 80 WPM.)
Patrix, at the risk of repeating myself
ctrl-c-ctrl-v
most of the stuff I write here does not take more than half an hour tops….
No gaurav it is not the *risk* of repeating yourself. It is the certainty of repeating yourself :)
(Not an original joke. So don’t beat me up)
Please to be removink reference to employer please. And refrain from misinformation. CK, whatever MadMan tells you, I do spend most of my time trying to tell a pair of nymphomaniac twins apart as they do nice things to me, while I call up their crack dealer to get them their favorite dope. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. That is why I don’t have any time to blap you. Don’t take it personally.
I take offence. Drinking and lying about all day (pun unintended) doing nothing demanding is no disqualification for being libertarian (or socialist, for that matter).
Heck, I’m working towards reaching that lofty state of life.
I thought only the heathen (read non-bloggers) considered blogging to be an activity for the jobless. This is the first time I’ve seen it come from a blogger! And to use that argument in a debate is blasphemous… especially if used by a blogger!!
So what the hell if we were all jobless. That’s our prerogative. Our choice. Who the hell (or heaven, up to you) is Mr. CK to question my choice?
Ravages, he didn’t insult you. It was against us!
I know Madman, and that’s what got my blood all boiling.
;)
But still, what if all of us had absolutely nothing better than to spend our days blogging. We aren’t asking him to feed us, are we?
All said and done I don’t know why it was even necessary to reply to that particular comment of his. Man, once you get down to character assasination the debate has been long lost. Next up is Godwin’s Law…
No offense intended to anyone but I was just wondering what it was that all of you do that gives you so much spare time to spend blogging. This was highlighted by the fact that I received 3 emails from Gaurav asking me to reply, then 2 seperate posts on AnarCrap again demanding that I reply at the soonest. I’m usually lucky if I have an hour or 2 to spare at the end of the day after work and I’ll be damned if I’m going to spend it sitting at a computer - I’d much rather be kayaking on Lake Washington.
Yeah all of you must type really really fast or maybe we just work longer hours in the US.
So sorry to disappoint all but you’ll have to wait till I travel next (Chicago next week) and have several hours to kill on a flight or at an airport - I’ll be damned if I’m going to spend gorgeous summer days indoors writing things nobody cares a hoot about - I suggest some of the bloggers also reconsider how much time they are wasting sitting at their screens tapping away at their keyboards…like get a life - a real one ;)
CK….
If someone is actually taking 5 minutes to explain why he has no time to reply : it only means he does not have one.
By the way, I am a self confessed Darwinist……am in the Cartel?
How does any of this make CK a troll? He has made valid comments, whether you agree or not is a different issue. He has left contact info so that you may get in touch with him. Yeah, that specific comment was *under the belt* — but it seemed more tongue-in-cheek.
Madhu c’mon, you are the guy who penned “etiquettes on mailing lists”… I thought you’d have a thicker skin than that.
BTW, I am yet to meet a jobless libertarian. I mean if you were jobless, why would you be a libertarian… would you rather not be a Maoist :-)
I never emailed Ck. I have been posting comments on this blog. Is Ck deluded, hallucinating or is he just a pathological liar, considering other recent evidence?
AnarCrap
This Ck sure is a classy dude. Class oozing from every pore of his body.
…..and such a bad loser!!
and yes
then 2 seperate posts on AnarCrap again demanding that I reply at the soonest.
Again, delusion or lies? Who demanded that you reply at the soonest? We merely made fun of the fact that you are running away from this debate via the beaten-to-death “no time” escape route, and yet you have time to post long comments insulting all of us everyday.
It is also amusing to read a comment that starts off with “no offence to anyone” and ends with “get a life ;)”.
My comments were based on what I read here. I didn’t go through all the messages, just sampled a few. And from what I read, I felt CK’s comment was more tongue-in-cheek rather than a direct attack.
I use the “;-)” and “:-)” smiley to indicate that the specific comment is to be “taken in the spirit.” Perhaps I was wrong about CK; I dunno.
All apologies the emails were from Gautam Bastian not Gaurav Sabnis - Gaurav/Gautam all the same to me ;)
I am un(der)employed, so it’s just as well that I’m not a joiner.
No, because under communism the condition is more likely to be permanent.
I am un(der)employed, so it’s just as well that I’m not a joiner.
Under communism the condition is more likely to be permanent, and the choice of jobs more constrained.
how about this…
hmm…….this ck has lots of time to argue when he wants to and lots of excuses of being busy when he wants to run away from the heat of the argument………. this from an extremely busy mother-wife-business owner- who steals five minutes to blog between a gazillion tasks-and still has time to hike-kayak-ski-run a multimillion dollar business and be a pretty good wife……..
was going through all the exchanges of jibes and taunts…. and it does seem a bit unfair to me…5-6 guys pitted against a single CK… anyways, i personally believe at times u accord a person more respect than he deserves by attacking and disparaging him time and again, something they actually enjoy… just a suggestion as an outsider, u all can move to issues better than kicking the arse of a solitary guy….
hi,
i m searching jobs.
i m fresher b.tech in computer scince and engg.
field of interest is networking & preparing for
CCNA.
Ok, I don’t know what to be more offended by, that my request to reply to an incomplete discussion is deemed to be a “demand”, or that I am consistently confused with Gaurav, whose enthusiasm I respect and views I seem to agree with, but who I have never met in my liff.
I am terribly offended by Ck, because I have been nothing less that polite to him in all our discussions and have refrained as far as is humanly possible from making ad hominem attacks on him. Anyhow to his great contentment I am sure no such “demands” are going to be made by me over the next couple of months as I move away from a permanent internet connection and the blogosphere ;-).
If it helps Ck, here are some memory markers:
Gautam Bastian
Xavier’s
Worked on Mohan Monteiro’s Raga in 1998
Economics
Self-proclaimed libertarian
Gaurav Sabnis
IIM
Works for IBM
Business
Self-proclaimed libertarian
My deepest apologies Gautam. I relly got the two pf you confused.