Comments on: Sonia Gandhi for PM, her Indian citizenship and the rule of law http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/ Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:54:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Gautam http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1185 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1185 What is the status of dual-citizens? Can a person theoretically be the president of America and France simultaneously? That should be a funny situation to be in. What is the status of dual-citizens? Can a person theoretically be the president of America and France simultaneously? That should be a funny situation to be in.

]]> by: MadMan http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1186 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1186 Some countries allow dual citizenship. What about them? Some countries allow dual citizenship. What about them?

]]> by: Yazad http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1187 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1187 India doesn't and as Sonia is not holding dual citizenship, practically the question does not arise. But to the best of my knowledge, in the case of dual citizenship, you have to renounce one to get full citizenship rights in the other. Dual citizenship generally endows one with 2 passports and easier travel / stay in both countries. In some cases even full voting rights are withheld. Would be a good subject to read more. India doesn’t and as Sonia is not holding dual citizenship, practically the question does not arise.

But to the best of my knowledge, in the case of dual citizenship, you have to renounce one to get full citizenship rights in the other. Dual citizenship generally endows one with 2 passports and easier travel / stay in both countries. In some cases even full voting rights are withheld.

Would be a good subject to read more.

]]> by: swami http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1188 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1188 nice... nice…

]]> by: Ravages http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1189 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1189 I like the slide bit. Pot of gold at the end of the slide? WHat I dont like though, is the fact that citizenships are someting one almost talks of as a commodity. Barter one here for one there. It ought to be better, or nothing at all. I like the slide bit. Pot of gold at the end of the slide?

WHat I dont like though, is the fact that citizenships are someting one almost talks of as a commodity. Barter one here for one there.
It ought to be better, or nothing at all.

]]> by: Ravikiran Rao http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1190 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1190 I wasn't making a slippery slope argument. I am not saying that letting naturalised citizens become Prime Minister means that we can have non-citizens also as PM. I haven't yet come to the central part of my argument. I will do so at the appropriate time, in true Congress tradition. But here, my question is, why not let the voters make a judgment on conflict-of-interest issues? I am sure that you are opposed to the government having a law against a person becoming CEO of two companies (especially competing companies) simultaneously. I am sure you agree that this matter should be left to the shareholders, who, if they are sane, won't stand for such a thing from their company's CEO. Why not let voters make such a choice? I wasn’t making a slippery slope argument. I am not saying that letting naturalised citizens become Prime Minister means that we can have non-citizens also as PM. I haven’t yet come to the central part of my argument. I will do so at the appropriate time, in true Congress tradition.

But here, my question is, why not let the voters make a judgment on conflict-of-interest issues? I am sure that you are opposed to the government having a law against a person becoming CEO of two companies (especially competing companies) simultaneously. I am sure you agree that this matter should be left to the shareholders, who, if they are sane, won’t stand for such a thing from their company’s CEO. Why not let voters make such a choice?

]]> by: Yazad http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1191 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1191 I'll wait till you reveal your central arguement. I’ll wait till you reveal your central arguement.

]]> by: Quizman http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1192 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1192 Ravi, Steve Jobs holds two different titles at Pixar and Apple, but everyone knows that he is the real CEO of both firms. Ravi,

Steve Jobs holds two different titles at Pixar and Apple, but everyone knows that he is the real CEO of both firms.

]]> by: Nilu http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1193 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1193 Technically, Sonia is still an Italian citizen. She has only surrendered her passport to the Italian embassy in Delhi, and has not "given up" on her citizenship legally. Subramaniam Swamy, has rightly pointed out - had she become the P.M, there would have been enough PIL's to question this and to get all messy.......she has just made a virtue out of necessity. Technically, Sonia is still an Italian citizen. She has only surrendered her passport to the Italian embassy in Delhi, and has not “given up” on her citizenship legally.

Subramaniam Swamy, has rightly pointed out - had she become the P.M, there would have been enough PIL’s to question this and to get all messy…….she has just made a virtue out of necessity.

]]> by: Yazad http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1194 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.yazadjal.com/2004/05/20/sonia-gandhi-for-pm-her-indian-citizenship-and-the-rule-of-law/#comment-1194 Nilu, Taking up Indian citizenship requires you to renounce any other citizenships you have. India and Italy do not have dual citizenship agreements. And surrendering a passport is universally accepted as renunciation of citizenship. Swamy's point was different. "Naturalised citizens should have the same rights in India as Indians have in the country of origin of the naturalised citizen. As Italy does not allow naturalised citizens to become the Prime Minister, Indians of Italian origin too should not have that right". Swamy's point is debateable, but nowhere does he state that Sonia Gandhi is still an Italian citizen. Nilu, Taking up Indian citizenship requires you to renounce any other citizenships you have. India and Italy do not have dual citizenship agreements. And surrendering a passport is universally accepted as renunciation of citizenship.

Swamy’s point was different. “Naturalised citizens should have the same rights in India as Indians have in the country of origin of the naturalised citizen. As Italy does not allow naturalised citizens to become the Prime Minister, Indians of Italian origin too should not have that right”. Swamy’s point is debateable, but nowhere does he state that Sonia Gandhi is still an Italian citizen.

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